Thursday, August 19, 2010

What's your opinion on this disagreement?

I'm not doing too well in my math class this semester and am thinking about withdrawing from it. However, I've already missed the deadline for getting a refund for it, but I also don't want to bring my GPA down if I stay in it and fail.





I'm in the process of trying to get my Hope Scholarship back and my tuition this semester was paid out of a savings account my father's had for me since I was born. This money is not legally mine until my parents say it is (I'm 21).





My father won't have it if I try to withdraw and not pay him back the $222 for that class. However, my boyfriend argues that I shouldn't have to pay him back for something *I* want to do when it comes to *my* education. Although I can definitely see his point, I just think it'd be pretty disrespectful on my part if I didn't pay him back.





What do you think? Thoughts? Opinions?

What's your opinion on this disagreement?
I think it would show your dad that you are growing into a responsible adult if you offer to pay him back for the class. If you can't pay it back in full talk with your dad and set some type of arrangements that works well for you both.
Reply:My opinion is that you should go along with your father and keep him happy rather than do what your boyfriend says. Whilst I can see both sides of the argument I dont think it is your boyfriends place to get involved in your family politics.


At your age your boyfriend is likely to only be around for a couple of years at most. He is also at an age where he is an idealist ready to fight for his rights ( and yours). Your parents will be your parents for the rest of your life. They have always loved you and always will. They want what is best for you, and sometimes what seems unfair is usually either to protect you or teach you about lifes' values.
Reply:You should pay your father back - (you should actually get tutoring and stay in the math class)
Reply:I disagree with your boyfriend. I think you need to either study your *** off and pass that class or pay your father for it. I'm sure there are ways you can work harder - get a tutor - talk to the professor etc. I think you can pass if you try really hard! You'll just have to work at it!
Reply:I think you are right to want to pay your father back for the class. It shows integrity. You did indeed squander some of the money set up for your education. You knew the consequences, and you made the choice. Tell your boyfriend to grow up.
Reply:Your first mistake was admitting to yourself you will not do well instead of making a gaol to do well.





If you are enrolled in college or technical school there is available help for you if you choose to use it and seek it.





What you are doing here is limiting yourself because you have it set in your mind you will not do well.





Not good, not good at all.





Instead of dropping the class make it work for you and accomplish something in the long run by proving to yourself you can do whatever you set out to do.





You asked for opinions and this is mine.
Reply:My opinion is that if you want to keep your gpa inflated, drop the class and tell your dad you will pay him back the $222. You can work out a payment arrangement with your dad if you like but I think you need to keep honorable with your dad. You could tell your dad that you have tried to do well in the class but don't think you can succeed with this instructor. Then you definitely need to get into a class with an instructor who has a good reputation for helping students succeed and you need to pull out all the stops to get a high grade the next time.
Reply:Your boyfriend's argument is flawed. As far as it goes, he's correct, if you want to drop the class, then do so. However, there are consequences. Like the loss of funding you'll face if you don't either finish the class or repay the money it cost. It's totally your choice which option you choose as are the consequences you'll face as a result of that choice.





However, you do have another option. Stay in the class and work hard enough to get a passing grade. Asking for help or heading over to the school's math lab might be a smarter thing to do in the long run.
Reply:I think you should Withdraw and take the "W". I also think you should pay your dad back the $222. The "w" is better than bringing down the gpa. Also, this is between your dad and you ( not your boyfriend, even though he is surely a nice guy). Its always better to be over-responsible financially than to do the "shoulda, coulda, woulda" thing ( especially with family). good-luck.
Reply:I read your last question about this professor too.





I know how it is to have a professor that is stubborn and hard to understand.





The thing is he's new and he too is still learning. I wouldn't give up now. Meet with him and explain that (you are sorry) but you are having a very hard time understanding him in class due to his accent and the speed he tries to teach. Explain respectfully that you took this class knowing that it would be a difficult subject for you but that you do want to do your best to learn and excel. If he is unwilling to negotiate or be reasonable then you may be forced to drop the class. But when in college i came to this conclusion.


In high school it was really important to not only pass but to pass well. that your GPA was what got you into college.


In college it's pass or fail. If you pass your GPA may not be as high but you still get credit for the class and get your degree.


I know it's a bit embarrassing to try and talk to someone about being unable to understand them but if you don't you may be losing out on getting through this class. Your money is already gone I say stick it out, talk to the teacher, and give it a whirl. He might turn out to be reasonable and you can get your credit for the class and move on!!





good luck!
Reply:Go to your class advisor and see about getting a math tutor (I think they are free). Or talk to some other kids in that class and find one who is doing really good and ask if they would be willing to do a study time with you and help you out.


If in the end you really are sure you want out, go to your parents and explain about how poorly you are doing in this class and the impact it will have on your GPA and scholarship and ask their advice (who knows maybe they will say go for the change and don't worry about the money if you act like you are asking for their input). Good luck and God Bless.
Reply:Family is blood. I am not saying that this means your boyfriend is any less. What I am saying is you and your boyfriend may not like what your father is saying and yes it is YOUR decision and YOUR education but as much as we all hate to admit it our parents sometimes do know what is best. If I were you I would give it one more "all you've got" before withdrawing (since you will not get the refund anyway) if not for your Dad mostly for yourself so that you know 100% that you did try your best. I hope that you have discussed all this with your dean of academics because you may not be the only person having trouble with this professor. You never know you may be able to switch to another professor or may even get credit instead of a refund but at least you would be able to retake the class but with another professor (you won't know unless you ask).


As for the money, if you do withdraw and you have the money then I feel that you should repay your Dad so that there are no hard feelings. By repaying your Dad you are showing him that you appreciated him paying for the class but that the class was not working for YOU and for YOUR education. I feel he will understand and see that you are a responsible adult and that you care very much about YOUR eduation even if it costs you more money because you have to give it back to do what YOU want. Good luck in your decision.
Reply:If you feel you need to pay him back, then do so.
Reply:Get a tutor to help with the class then you will have the credit, keep your GPA and be done with it!
Reply:Since the money paid for your class is not yet yours, your father did pay for this class. I agree with you that it would be disrespectful not to pay your father back.


You don't want to have any "bad blood" with your father. You will get the money back eventually when the savings account becomes yours.
Reply:My opinion is...your father is right. If he paid for the class out of a savings account to be used for your education (as I am suspecting) then he has ever right to expect you to fulfill that obligation. If you decide to do the opposite, then expect that your father will probably not help you with support again. If I were you, in my opinion, I would just buck up and complete the class, work my *** off to get good grades so that I could keep my GPA, still get the scholarship and not have to worry about this situation again (since you wouldn't be using your father's money).
Reply:If you fail the class and retake the class next semester, the first grade won't count for your GPA once the new grade is posted. You sound like you feel you should pay your dad back. Just give him the $$ back to go back into the account, you'll feel better about yourself, and he will have more respect for you. Don't listen to your boyfriend, this is between you and your dad, it isn't his business.
Reply:Tough one


Its just $222, and would you be burning bridges if you didn't refund it?





Your father is trying to teach financial responsibility, as well as give you a sense of it being "your" education. So, in interests of peace, may $10 payments on the $222. I'm sure you'll get more than that back in the long run.


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